PUA or relationship artist. Which are you?
The primary reason men don’t get what they want, is that they don’t know what they want.
That is the real issue, but so many guys aren’t ready for that or have forgotten it. So, as I way of looking at it from another perspective I have written this post. I’m not here to say that this is the way that people are. It is merely an invitation for you to be entertained by myself, and maybe discuss what I’m about to say.
Anyway…
The community is built upon the concept of gaming. I’ve spent alot of time over the last 2 years in bars and doing day game and what not. I never really actually got laid from the process. Looking back now, having left the community at large I think I realise why.
I’m a relationship guy.
I see a very discernible difference in the views of men. And that is that some enjoy casual sex and some don’t.
It is often argued in the community that this view is an illusion and that all men are to strive to become pickup artists. This view simply isn’t true. I got quite angry about this before I signed off from the community. I was angry because of all the guys that I see pottering about in bars and streets, with their tails dangling between their legs. I saw men that were out doing something that was not natural to them. At the time I didn’t really have a reason why I felt the way I did, but on reflection it makes a good deal more sense to me. I must point out that this isn’t all guys, merely a select few.
You see, if a man doesn’t know what he wants, then the community offers something really quite enticing - direction.
This however, is the trap that I have been raving about for so long, but its only a trap to a certain kind of man.
That man is the relationship guy.
The relationship guy is probably not going to meet the right women for him whilst learning pickup. The opposite is actually true. The relationship guy has a different set of values from the typical pickup artist. He prefers long term gratification over the instant kind.
These values can be the cause of very well known but often misunderstood conflict:
He is more likely to get approach anxiety.
He is more likely to get stuck in his head.
These are potentially symptoms of a person conforming to something that is not actually the best cause of action for them. If you have been out on the field for a substantial amount of time and you are still suffering from these symptoms, then something deeper is at work. This could be your problem.
Members of the community appear to hold the opinion that having a relationship with a women is something that you eventually aspire to, i.e.
- after
you have got good at pickup.
This is a myth.
Deep down I have always been the man that wanted the relationship. It has simply taken me time to discover that. I wanted relationships before entering the community. As a member of the community, I found myself building relationships and then dismantling them when I realised they didn’t meet my ‘pickup targets’.
Pickup is useful, as long as we aware of why we are doing it. I actually got trapped into the communities way of thinking, and believed that I wanted to be some crazy playboy. This works out both ways too. Perhaps you are in a relationship when really you shouldn’t be, because you are a pickup guy and not a relationship guy.
Your status and life outlook is constantly changing. It is important to be aware of that fact.
So what is the best approach for the overlooked relationship guy?
Obviously, the relationship guy has to be confident enough to be approaching women, but that doesn’t mean he should be doing it with the end aim of racking up notches on his bed post. For the relationship guy, striving towards this goal offers at best frustration, and at worst a serious feeling of loneliness.
The correct approach is to readdress what he really wants.
I’ll say it again.
The primary reason men don’t get what they want, is that they don’t know what they want.
For me personally, I discovered that I actually enjoy spending time with women far more than I do the instant sex. Everybody says that we should rise above ourselves and learn to stop craving sex so much. I think this is food for thought. Recently, I found myself telling my wing that I genuinely didn’t care
if I didn’t have sex for the next five years.
Recently, I decided to readdress and realised what this was all about. This led to me changing my approach to women. I started to tell women that I wanted a relationship. Nowhere in pickup does it say to do this. Nowhere.
I have been running this approach for a month or so. It led me to meeting a girl and we are now seeing each other.
So if you are reading this I would like you to ask if perhaps you are that relationship guy.
If you are and you are out gaming. Then perhaps its time to change your direction slightly.
I find myself in agreement with you here as I have come to a similar realisation (see my post ‘Friday 14th March - Leaving Do’).
I think the experience of cold approaches is building a confidence that is attractive in and of itself. Perhaps, simply, by facing that fear.
Btw… I am currently having my brain fried by The Blueprint ;-D
Comment by Pirate_uk — March 23, 2008 @ 10:44 am
Your blog is very informative, I have learned so much from it. It is like daily newspaper :). Added to fav’s.
Comment by FloodKicker — April 11, 2008 @ 6:44 am
You pretty much it on the head. The reason why guys get approach anxiety and get stuck in their heads while doing Pick-Up is because they have their values mixed up. They get a lot of community noise telling them that they should be playboys that have alotta sex when in fact, they are guys who just want to kick it with girls and spend time with them and not necessarily have sex with them. Although I disagree with you on some points.
You typed
“Perhaps you are in a relationship when really you shouldn’t be, because you are a pickup guy and not a relationship guy.”
This suggests, from what I read, that guys do not get to choose what their values are. This is totally wrong. For something as reality-shattering as Pick-Up (this is what the gurus are always chirpin about), then it is necessary for the individual to DECIDE his values. That means, either to be a Playboy, or to be a monogamous guy that wants to be loyal to a woman forever. Nobody, and this includes society, decides what our values are. It is us that decide our values. And stepping into the doors of Pick-Up, we have essentiall determined what our values are. Some of us are existentially dumb to know what values we’ve determined for ourselves, but there are those, the high-thinking, conscious INDIVIDUALS that decide what values he must live for, whether for weal or for woe, for good or for evil.
Comment by hyperreal — May 12, 2008 @ 7:16 am